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[Ruta Bagas]

I am also going to stop marking the use/mention distinction. Doing so made the above post far too clear.

[lprkn]

There are not cans enough in this world, Ruta Bagas...

[dejavroom]

Bagas, Bagas, Bagas...

[TripperDay]

I feel for those who are confused, but after several hundred years of colonialism, slavery, resource theft, racism, etc.  how about you just call the people who are suffering from being dicked over for generations what they want to be called and don't question it?

That too much to ask?

[CortJstr]

I feel for those who are confused, but after several hundred years of colonialism, slavery, resource theft, racism, etc.  how about you just call the people who are suffering from being dicked over for generations what they want to be called and don't question it?

That too much to ask?

The issue, at least for me, is that I've only heard white people use the term "woman/person of color." And almost always in a staffing situation. "We should try to fill that vacancy with a person of color" or "it looks bad that not many people of color work here."

So I'm not clear that there are people who do want to be called that.

[dejavroom]

how about you just call the people who are suffering from being dicked over for generations what they want to be called and don't question it?

That too much to ask?

Them you-know-whats are just too plain lazy to prepare and send off a memo, that's the rub.

[AugustWest]

I feel for those who are confused, but after several hundred years of colonialism, slavery, resource theft, racism, etc.  how about you just call the people who are suffering from being dicked over for generations what they want to be called and don't question it?

That too much to ask?

Let us know when they reach a consensus.

Of course, if I find their actions asinine, I reserve the right to make fun of them.  Because I'd be treating them differently if I didn't.  And it's wrong to treat people differently based upon skin color, isn't it?

[wombat]

I don't care what people want to be called, I think 'colored people' sounds poetic and there should be a movement to revive it. Although I'm willing to be persuaded to use 'rampaging hippopotamuses' instead.

[dejavroom]

...that luscious negress... Oh, sorry, daydreaming here, go on...

[TripperDay]

The issue, at least for me, is that I've only heard white people use the term "woman/person of color." And almost always in a staffing situation. "We should try to fill that vacancy with a person of color" or "it looks bad that not many people of color work here."

So I'm not clear that there are people who do want to be called that.

Don't get me wrong; I almost always say "black" if I'm describing someone who's black. But if someone wanted me to "African-American" in their presence, I'd happily oblige and not give it another thought.

[jaydub]

Wait a minute, this 'dicked over for generations' thing...is there anything in it for me?

I'm not sure how marginalized the BPoE have been throughout recent history.

[theinevitable]

The issue, at least for me, is that I've only heard white people use the term "woman/person of color." And almost always in a staffing situation. "We should try to fill that vacancy with a person of color" or "it looks bad that not many people of color work here."

So I'm not clear that there are people who do want to be called that.

Ditto. In my case I have heard it in anthropology classes where it was used, as far as I can tell, to mean "the people white people dick over."

[dejavroom]

Don't get me wrong; I almost always say "black" if I'm describing someone who's black. But if someone wanted me to "African-American" in their presence, I'd happily oblige and not give it another thought.

See, I most likely wouldn't, because it's against my policy to oblige dunderheads.

[pmcd9]

I think if we tried a little harder we could turn this thread into a flame war about racism.

[Choop]

whatever, texas