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[littlefallsmets]

Appropos of nothing, my absolute favourite part of the trolling cycle is that brief period where the troll pretends to kind of start changing his ways and become a part of the community so that his next volley of vitriol is more effective and the more gullible about are "shocked" by the "betrayal".

At a certain point for me, I guess, the obvious can become SO obvious that is spins the dial and becomes fascinating.

ALSO: my favourite part of the life cycle of water is when evaporated water becomes clouds.

[smick]

The blackhat/b-tard/H4X0R TH3 PL4N3+ types do not believe that the Intertrons count as your living room. After all, your entryway to the Intertubes is connected to their entryway. As far as they are concerned, the Internet is a giant easement and therefore should be considered shared property.

     I've never understood the free speech argument on the internet, when your free speech is speechifying at the pleasure of someone else's resources.   Certainly the tubes ARE easements, and I think Free Speech in the tube is important.  
     This is a conflict to what I just said however, in the infrastructure is owned by the big backbone carriers.   It's different though as they're in the infrastructure business.  It's a similar analog to the telephone, wherein they make money providing those tubes to people regardless of their content as long as it isn't abusive or destructive to the other users of their infrastructure.
     When we get to all of these end nodes of the internet however, they're owned and operated by private citizens.   I see no obligation to users to provide privacy, free speech, or access.   We're all here on someone's good graces, and should expect to see that ended at any moment on nothing more than a whim, or even a whimsy.  "HEY!  TODAY I'M GOING TO DELETE ALL USERS THAT HAVE A D IN THEIR ACCOUNT NAME!" is a just FINE activity.
     Certainly that wouldn't be conducive to a pleasant environment for discourse, but... you're know OWED anything and are free to go find a better place at any moment.   There's a lot of entitlement in people on the internet.   Mostly when I see the phrase "free speech" coming out of anyone it just comes off bratty.   "I CAN DO WHAT I WANT!  I'M AN ADULT!  IT'S A FREE COUNTRY!"

     For certain, all the bantown/b-tard/Already In Use folks are FREE to do their performance art.   Just not necessarily here.  Dreamhost has very reasonable rates.   You're free to put up a server there for as long as they'll have you.

[Arachno-capitalist]

hey LFM, Did you know Kurt Vonnegut was a hack and that socialism was invented by satan? You should read some stuff by Ayn Rand, she is an author with some good ideas and none of them are wrong. We should lower taxes on rich people so they can make more jobs for poor people.


Ahh... I cant even pretend to do that anymore. Ive lost my edge.

Also, smick, he did start up another achewood message board somewhere and it had like 2 users. I forget what the link was.

[smick]

Also, smick, he did start up another achewood message board somewhere and it had like 2 users. I forget what the link was.

Smells like... freedom.

[jay-ell]

Two words: Lulz.

I guess I'm old, too, but I yearn for the simple days when things were done for the jazz, or possibly for the kids.

[Chump Change]

hot-cha-cha-cha-cha!

[wombat]

hey LFM, Did you know Kurt Vonnegut was a hack and that socialism was invented by satan? You should read some stuff by Ayn Rand, she is an author with some good ideas and none of them are wrong. We should lower taxes on rich people so they can make more jobs for poor people.


Ahh... I cant even pretend to do that anymore. Ive lost my edge.

Aw, that is the saddest thing.

[smick]

I guess I'm old, too, but I yearn for the simple days when things were done for the jazz, or possibly for the kids.

When I'm not sure about something, I proclaim that I will do it for SCIENCE.

On an unrelated note: Friday evening, I adjusted the bindings in my rental snow board, and then proceeded to zip down the mountain, and cram my face and shoulder into the ground.   I swore I had broken my collar bone... for science. 

I didn't, but man, I've never heard my body make those kinds of crunchy noises.   I've noted it in my log book.

[AugustWest]

hot-cha-cha-cha-cha!

JAZZ HANDS!!!

[Thomas Pain]

holy batman batman

did we get an discussion going here or what.

okay, I wasn't actually being sarcastic, well kinda in a way I was.  In an auspie way.  I can man up to that.

As for the freedom of speech arguments... as for the fact that it's a private server... *shrug*  yeah in theory you can make that argument, but it's just not a good argument, because for whatever reason, if people congregate in a place, say the town pub, and the town pub is private, and then the pub owner decides he's not going to allow any black people in, or anyone who has this or that idea...  it's the same thing.  When you limit free speech - even on private property - there is a line that can be crossed where it's to the detriment of society...  does that line apply in my case?  Probably not, because like the patrons who are too blind and uneducated to see the harm in not allowing black people to socialize with them, you guys are probably all too close minded for my radiant sunshine of ideas to make a difference for y'all.

as for the borg, no bobby, we're not borg yet.  this web 2.0 sh1t ain't borgish.  we're about to become borged, however.  I estimate sometime in the next 5 years tops.  if that will lead to more peace or more war, it's hard to say...  it will simply exponentially increase the rate with which our culture evolves... or devolves, as the case may be.

ALSO: my favourite part of the life cycle of water is when evaporated water becomes clouds.

water can not be said to be alive except perhaps if you are referring to the interesting things that happen during phase transitions, e.g. at the transition from stable liquid to chaotic boiling, the water spontaneously organizes it's self into beehive-like hexagons... if you heat a shallow pan of water on the stove gradually you can maybe reproduce this.

[miles]

I've been thrown out of drinking establishments for arguing with bartenders, stealing drinks and passing out. Fuck that noise.

[Thomas Pain]

I've been thrown out of drinking establishments for arguing with bartenders, stealing drinks and passing out. Fuck that noise.

yes and there were times and places where you would get thrown out for bein' black.

just because you aren't aware that you harbor any ridiculous prejudices doesn't prove that you don't. 

[littlefallsmets]

The Force is in the water, man, and it is alive in that sense.

Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.

[Thomas Pain]

hold your hand up to this topic, press your hand against the screen (not too hard if you have an LCD) and you will be healed!!!

also I need you to donate some money to my paypal account...

[AugustWest]

As for the freedom of speech arguments... as for the fact that it's a private server... *shrug*  yeah in theory you can make that argument, but it's just not a good argument

SCOTUS would disagree with you.

just because you aren't aware that you harbor any ridiculous prejudices doesn't prove that you don't. 

You're absolutely right.  I have a ridiculous prejudice against obnoxious people.  For some reason, I don't like people who intentionally annoy me.  Go figure. 

Are you seriously arguing that we should overcome our prejudices and like people who are jerks to us?  Because I'd be happy to come and punch you in the throat so we can be bestest friends.



I don't know dude.  What the fuck do you want from this interaction, anyway?
 
I mean, we have a little community here.  Perhaps it's not all that great, but those of who hang here enjoy it.

As with any community, we have our culture, norms and mores.  What I want to know is this:  Do you want to be a member of our community or are you just here to heckle us? 

If you want to be a part, we can probably work something out.  However, becoming a member of the community means accepting our culture, norms and mores.  If you want to be a member of the Water Buffalo Lodge, you have to take the Water Buffalo oath and live by the Water Buffalo bylaws.  Nobody's forcing you.  But don't be surprised if you're not welcome in the Water Buffalo clubhouse if you won't.

If you just want to make fun of our fezzes, I guess that's OK too.  But if all you can contribute is scorn you should expect us to ignore the ever loving shit out of you.

So what is it?  Are you on the bus or off the bus?