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[jay-ell]

I love physical books but I hate owning and storing stuff, so I'm constantly at odds with myself. I try to get things at the library, since I don't have an e-reader, but I'll also buy a book used and then sell it back unless I really think I'll use it again.

I've found that knitting books and cookbooks -- or really anything that contains really useful reference information -- are worth keeping around. But at this point, the only reason I'd ever want to buy physical book that wasn't nonfiction would be either (a) to read in the tub/at the beach or (b) if I loved it so much I wanted a copy to loan out to friends.

I solve (a) by using magazines for that purpose and (b) by not having friends.

I do love magazines. There's a certain impermanence about them that appeals to me. They're a very low-commitment reading experience, which is about all I have time for these days.

[wombat]

By the way, I don't have an ereader either. I downloaded the Kindle software to my laptop. I am finding it's just as comfortable to read as an actual Kindle.

[jay-ell]

I didn't know you could do that. I have a netbook, that would be very convenient.

[CortJstr]

I do love magazines. There's a certain impermanence about them that appeals to me. They're a very low-commitment reading experience, which is about all I have time for these days.

I stopped reading magazines the day I bought a Tivo. I quickly realized I did 99% of my magazine reading while "watching" the shows that were on in between the shows I actually wanted to watch. Like whatever Comedy Central used to put on between the 7pm Daily Show rerun and primetime. Once I got a Tivo and no longer had to watch those shows I no longer had a reason to pick up a magazine. My novel reading did pick-up, though.

[Nabubrush]

If you decide to listen, note that they don't manage to get started on the topic till about 25 minutes in.

Lazy cocksuckers. Fuck those guys.

[littlefallsmets]

they agree with many of you that think he is a whiner and he should have thanked the readers.  Also a lot of stuff about art and commerce. And the creative process.

Oh man. These guys are such soulless hucksters in the other direction that I WANT to sympathize with Onstad's position more than I do.

[pmcd9]

I like books too, but would drop them like a bad habit if I had an ereader.  What I'm learning from this thread though is that they need to make them more water resistant.

[AugustWest]

I've got the Kindle software on my phone.  So far I've only used it while I'm riding a stationary bike. I like it.  But I'll never give up books.  Never.

[wombat]

I don't understand why discussions of ebooks ALWAYS end up being about either/or. I don't think anyone is suggesting paper books are ever going to completely go away.

[jay-ell]

Oh man. These guys are such soulless hucksters in the other direction that I WANT to sympathize with Onstad's position more than I do.

LFM hates everybody!

[Nabubrush]

Well, it sounds like most people in here are cool with having both except for Paul, who of course is a philistine.

[side_show]

I don't understand why discussions of ebooks ALWAYS end up being about either/or. I don't think anyone is suggesting paper books are ever going to completely go away.

I've got an either or mind on this one.  I don't want to appear to support the e-book movement in any way.  It's my alligence with struggling small house booksellers.  I'll be one of the last hold outs for sure.

[wombat]

I think that actually ebooks are going to make small publishers more viable and this can only be good for the book business in the long run. In fact the last thing I bought was direct from a small publisher I'd never heard of before.

[pmcd9]

Burn all books.  Fahrenheit 451 bitches.

[pmcd9]

LFM hates everybody!

To be fair, that podcast sucks.  I haven't even gotten to the part about Onstad and I am ready to delete it.  They have absolutely nothing to say.