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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2011, 08:39:22 am »
I get that, but it seems like they represent Boston whether or not people in Boston love playing hockey.
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 01:05:45 pm »
So the attachment people feel towards sports teams isn't geographically based.  In fact, you could argue that people form these attachments on a completely arbitrary basis.

So what?

It's just a way to be a part of something larger than yourself.  It's a way to share a common experience with like minded individuals.  It's a local team because all the people around here like it, not because the team or its members are somehow representative of the area.

In my state college basketball is by far the most popular sport.  People are rabid fans of either UK or Louisville.  Yet I'm willing to bet that the percentage of fans who have set foot on the campus of their preferred team would hover somewhere around 10%.  Silly?  Maybe.  But it gives us something to share, something to talk about, something to root for together. 

We root for local teams because they're what's here.
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 01:54:32 pm »
I should probably hate Tampa, as a division rival and the team that knocked the Caps out.  But you know, I have a healthy respect for them.  They're a good squad, they won fair and square, and while I'd rather see either team from the West win the Cup, I'm not too bent about it.

(Now, the Penguins, fuck THOSE guys.)
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2011, 05:03:57 pm »
Quote from: AugustWest on May 16, 2011, 01:05:45 pm

In my state college basketball is by far the most popular sport.  People are rabid fans of either UK or Louisville.  Yet I'm willing to bet that the percentage of fans who have set foot on the campus of their preferred team would hover somewhere around 10%. 

Pedro went to NCSU. Sometimes, he wears a shirt or hat related to this. When he does, strangers at the mall will ask him, "Did you see the game last night?" To which he is forced to admit that he's not even sure which sport they're talking about, and that he's actually a fan of the educational institution.

When he's feeling flip, he'll say, "No, but did you see the *****ics competition last week?!?!"
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2011, 07:29:51 pm »
Quote from: AugustWest on May 16, 2011, 01:05:45 pm
So the attachment people feel towards sports teams isn't geographically based.  In fact, you could argue that people form these attachments on a completely arbitrary basis.

So what?

It's just a way to be a part of something larger than yourself.  It's a way to share a common experience with like minded individuals.  It's a local team because all the people around here like it, not because the team or its members are somehow representative of the area.

In my state college basketball is by far the most popular sport.  People are rabid fans of either UK or Louisville.  Yet I'm willing to bet that the percentage of fans who have set foot on the campus of their preferred team would hover somewhere around 10%.  Silly?  Maybe.  But it gives us something to share, something to talk about, something to root for together. 

We root for local teams because they're what's here.

Indeed.

Also, as far as I'm concerned if you don't like sports you can screw yourself.
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2011, 08:17:38 pm »
Quote from: Nabubrush on May 16, 2011, 07:29:51 pm
Also, as far as I'm concerned if you don't like sports you can screw yourself.

i think sports are ok.  is it alright if i screw myself?
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2011, 03:35:36 am »
Quote from: Nabubrush on May 16, 2011, 07:29:51 pm
Indeed.

Also, as far as I'm concerned if you don't like sports you can screw yourself.

It's is OK to not like sports.  I want to hear about how you don't like sports about as much as I want to hear about how you don't like broccoli.  And not liking sports does not make you smarter, hipper or more enlightened.  It just means you don't like a form of entertainment that I do.

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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2011, 04:48:46 am »
yeah, that is not what I am saying. I do not care if you like sports. Go ahead and like sports.

What I am saying is, it is stupid to be biased against hockey teams from cities where the populace does not play hockey. They are still real teams that people are allowed to like. If I live in Brazil and want to like their hockey team, screw you if you think it is stupid for Brazil to have a hockey team.
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2011, 01:03:58 pm »
Or for Jamaica to have a bobsled team!
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2011, 01:25:24 pm »
Man, y'all are making way too much of this.  Here's a reminder of what's going on.  sMets team is out of the playoffs.  He wants to continue following the playoffs.  To add to his enjoyment he wants to root for one team over another.  He doesn't have any sound real basis to root for any of the teams so he's invented an arbitrary one.

He's not saying that it's wrong for you root for the Mud Ducks or whatever, but he's choosing to root for Manchester United because the kids actually play soccer in that town.
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2011, 03:17:45 pm »
Quote from: pmcd9 on May 17, 2011, 01:25:24 pm
Man, y'all are making way too much of this.  Here's a reminder of what's going on.  sMets team is out of the playoffs.  He wants to continue following the playoffs.  To add to his enjoyment he wants to root for one team over another.  He doesn't have any sound real basis to root for any of the teams so he's invented an arbitrary one.

He's not saying that it's wrong for you root for the Mud Ducks or whatever, but he's choosing to root for Manchester United because the kids actually play soccer in that town.

I think you might have conflated a couple of things.

As for what I said, as always, I was kidding around. I will continue to think of expansion teams as lesser franchises, albeit only jokingly. I'd always rather see an original six team win it all, with second choice going to a Canadian team. Funnily, I'd rather the Steelers never win another Super Bowl. Why? Because the Chargers haven't won one, while the Red Wings are the second most successful hockey club. What does this mean? That I am a hypocrite.
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2011, 05:17:57 pm »
Quote from: pmcd9 on May 17, 2011, 01:25:24 pm
He's not saying that it's wrong for you root for the Mud Ducks or whatever, but he's choosing to root for Manchester United because the kids actually play soccer in that town.

I've caught a couple of Premier League games and want to watch more but I don't have a team yet. But I do know that it's not cool to like Manchester United and if I choose to support them all the soccer fans I know will be mad at me. Teams people are lobbying me to like: Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2011, 06:08:06 pm »
Back during the single year that Slamball was a televised sport, Pedro and I took to watching it and arbitrarily choosing opposing teams based on what colors we liked better or something equally silly. The teams aren't even associated with disparate geographic areas. It's completely random.

Still, it was fun to talk trash about the other team even though neither of us were invested in it beyond being deliberately adversarial.
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2011, 04:12:06 pm »
So I might get to see the Yankees play us in Seattle next week, and I'm excited about the prospect of throwing fake money at A-Rod (I'm a decade late but I never got to see any of the Seattle v Texas games after he left Seattle) and, as my friend suggested, chant "Gay-Rod" over and over. And this guy at work, who also hates the Yankees, lectured me about how you can't blame the guy for leaving Seattle because it was a better career move, it's not his fault that baseball is all about money now and that I'm probably just bitter and jealous. And he's right about the bitterness, though I'm not jealous and I still idolize former Mariners like Griffey and Randy Johnson (though for him it's mostly for the 2001 World Series). But for me, sports is in large part about hating the bad guys. Maybe A-Rod's the greatest guy in the world and I could sit down and have a beer with him and talk baseball and Madonna and whatever but when he dons his pinstripes he's a fuck*ng traitor and even though he's on my fantasy roster I hope he fuck*ng chokes. Why A-Rod? Why have I hated him since he left for Texas and not every good player that has left for money or a better shot at real post-season action? I don't know. But it's sports, it's a bit of fun and it's pointless to criticize fans as irrational because that's what makes it fun. Well, at least makes it more fun, for me.

But I do think it sucks that outside of the Yankees and after free agency, it's rare to see a star stick around for all or even most of his career. That's probably why Edgar and Ichiro rank so highly for me, or partly why. They're also fuck*ng tremendous ball players.

But anyway when I watched San Jose defeat the Canucks in San Jose last night, I was thinking, has it ever even snowed in San Jose? Fuck those guys. So I get that sentiment.

Also, LFM, how good was it to see the Mets beat the Yankees in the Bronx?
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Re: Lord Stanley's Cup
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2011, 04:35:45 pm »
[whatever sport] is a x month long soap opera for guys
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