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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2011, 11:25:42 pm »
understood and agreed.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2011, 01:54:45 am »
Oh, I am getting on. 

I walk dogs well enough that I get to walk dogs for 14 hours tomorrow and hopefully I will make enough to feed myself.  At the same time, I could be wrong, but we probably tax the people in your tax bracket less than any other western nation, and I am pretty sure you vote for the people that keep it that way (well, unless you vote green or something we all do, I guess).  So all I am saying is that if you are in that situation you don't get to bitch about public services being underfunded or tell people to get over it.

Also, didn't we raise taxes to get us out of that 42 month crater you mentioned?  And then W lowered them again, and then something in September and then, oh, poorly fought republican wars that we can't even think about cutting the budget for...
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2011, 02:01:41 am »
Quote from: greenkoolayd on July 02, 2011, 11:25:42 pm
understood and agreed.

I shouldn't have said that, I am sorry.  I was initially really happy to walk dogs, because I thought it would be better than my previous, meaningless gig.  It isn't.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2011, 02:44:56 am »
I would like to emphasize  here that I am only amused insofar as you guys are debating political points and not criticizing one another's lifestyle choices.

Let's fight nicely, kids.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2011, 07:59:06 am »
Quote from: Asherdan on July 03, 2011, 02:15:46 am
I pay a fuckton of taxes and if you can show me a streamlined delivery I'll pay even more.

To be fair, you and I pay our fair share, but a lot of folks in our boat don't, and try their best to pay even less. Not to get in too deeply, but there's a lot more $ tied up in tax breaks for shit like mortgage interest (not getting collected) than there is for welfare (getting collected and spent). We can discuss whether that money gets turned around and put back in the system if you want, but poor folks aren't stuffing food stamps in their mattresses and coffee cans in the back yard. Also, I love each and every one of you.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2011, 05:01:30 pm »
Well, obviously recent experiments vis-a-vis home ownership being a societal benefit overall have resulted in, shall we say, mixed results. I'm just saying a) people shouldn't bitch about the little guy when they're a larger overall drain, and b) I'd have been just fine without the tax break - it's just gravy - and I'm betting you would have been fine too. I wouldn't have a problem with them getting rid of some or all of those kind of breaks. There's probably a pool there that buy homes that wouldn't without the gov't handout, but that money could be applied somewhere else. Society does derive a long-term benefit from stable families, it's true. Home ownership probably is a stabilizing factor for some families, although there's piles of anecdotal evidence that home owners fuck shit up, too.

But society would also benefit from giving some of that money to single-parent homes to provide child-care so those parents could go to school. It could also benefit from providing more counseling and education and medical care to pregnant teens, or hell, even to teens that are sexually active and not yet pregnant. It wouldn't hurt to try to give more of a hand to folks who can't seem to get off the drugs. It might help, also, to get rid of those limits that kick in when people get too much of one type of public assistance, making it so they can't get school loans or other types of help. I guess I'm just saying that - and maybe it's my bleeding heart - I tend to feel more for folks that are further down the social strata. Maybe it's white guilt. Maybe it's being stuck in a bastion of neo-con Fox "news" watching fascists. Maybe it's my innate capacity for love.


Look what you've done - you've turned me into 'sMets. When did I get so fuck*ng wordy?
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2011, 06:07:14 pm »
I won't argue that the guys in charge will probably fuck it up, but that's not what my original point was. And I'm not sure I quite follow your point about mixing the types of income streams. I was focused on fed taxes, because it's easy to make a sort of "this much goes in, this much comes out" comparison. For me, the state issue/sales tax thing is sort of not what I was getting at. That's a whole 'nother kettle of giraffe. As an illustration of the folks in charge fuck*ng things up, it's a dandy, though.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2011, 06:07:48 pm »
Quote from: Asherdan on July 03, 2011, 05:37:31 pm
But getting at new revenue streams is being implemented by a bunch of cock-arsed mental deficients. Example: California just decided to have all retailers in state or with an in state presence (good luck defining that without a court war) collect sales tax. This is aimed at out of state internet purchases. Amazon said 'fuck you very much' and severed ties with their affiliates that have any sort of presence in California. End result? No new income from internet sales and a decline in revenues from the in state retailers that got hosed out of an Amazon relationship that was helping them move product.

What surprised me about this was, did the legislature not do any research at all before passing this? Because it seems to me that exactly this thing has happened before. A few years ago I lost a really easy web writing gig because the site had to stop doing Amazon affiliate sales and, having lost its source of income, could no longer pay writers. They were based in North Carolina and if I recall correctly it was due to a similar change in state law there.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2011, 03:20:36 am »
Okay, we've talked politics long enough.

People actually believe this.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2011, 03:54:10 am »
when i open a jar of peanut butter, the end result is a mouthgasm, because that shit is tasty.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2011, 09:49:50 am »
I got that motherfucker - he hasn't opened every jar of peanut butter ever.

Not to mention it's clear that jar was already opened! He took the new life out, that bastard.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2011, 10:39:59 am »
It's quite clear what happened. Obviously the night before filming the presenter would have been a bit tense and prayed for it to go off all right, G-d would have heard that prayer and then intervened. As evolution is caused by the devil and G-d can easily thwart the Great Adversary it would have been the work of a moment to cast out all the natural selection demons from the pot. After which He presumably retired to watch a parasitic worm eat a toddler's eye from the inside out somewhere in central Africa without intervening due to ineffability.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2011, 10:43:06 am »
His shit is always so inscrutable.
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2011, 02:42:06 pm »
Quote from: Asherdan on July 04, 2011, 04:25:48 am
god made man
but he used a monkey to do it

Why, God? Why?
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Re: The Coliseum
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2011, 03:07:40 pm »
So like a . . . like a human centipede?
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