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Title: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: LCB on April 07, 2006, 06:21:11 am
I think I like where this is going, even if it means more Phillipe in misery/peril, etc.
Eatin' chapstick...pretty miserable. I bet it's not even mint flavored or anything, just plain. Just sit in the cold, poor otter.

The couch doesn't care what happens to you. Why? Because it's a couch.

Plus, that close-up of the warning sign about water flowing into the bay...somewhat ominous.

I just have a feeling things are going to get worse for Phillipe before they get better.

And Geology Greg, what is he? A TV guy in a costume? A cheaply done computer animated mascot? I must know...not really.
Title: Re: TWIST - CHOMP Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: nuero on April 07, 2006, 06:22:29 am
I'm not feeling it.
Title: Re: TWIST - CHOMP Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: goldenchurchhill on April 07, 2006, 06:27:10 am
Man this is a great strip.  Philippe jumping the creek is awesome.  Is that chap stick under his nose? 

Also, great Ray/Beef cut out.  Ray always having his sweet speakers, beef always be all poor and what not.  Briliant!!!


Someone on this site the other day asked how he would open the can.  Nice call.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: theinevitable on April 07, 2006, 06:31:46 am
man
poor phillipe.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: LCB on April 07, 2006, 06:33:04 am
It's the DOINK's and the OOFs that make the creek jumping work.

Plus, a brief flash of Classic Beef. Invite to a party? Sure but let me cool off my no doubt off-brand dollar-store mac & cheese to save for later.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: goldenchurchhill on April 07, 2006, 06:35:50 am
I know.  Onstad has such good character development.  It is too predictable, but at the same time the funniest thing I have ever seen on the internet.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: jough on April 07, 2006, 06:44:24 am
I'm not feeling this one yet, although I did like when Roasted Beef was explaining to everyone about the hot macaroni, and of course everyone admonished him about putting it in the fridge while it was still hot.

I think Onstad is at his best when he's doing "creepy" (secret ice-cream shoppe, hell, cartilage head, etc.) and his artwork seems to be best in those arcs, too.  This could be a good Philippe is alone in the wilderness strip.

Although the little dude is 5.  He's travelled what, like three blocks from home before setting up camp?  He'll be all "Oh no I am going to die this is terrible!" and Teodor or someone will be out for a stroll and be all such as "Philippe, what are you doing over here?"
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: V-Adore on April 07, 2006, 07:05:29 am
This strip reminds me distinctly of when I was seven or so, at a friend's house out in the woods, and I wandered off the road and was utterly convinced I was going to die. (I believe I got all of 500 feet from the road.)

I smell another Super-Secret Ice Cream Shop arc.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: oball on April 07, 2006, 08:18:43 am
He should use the pointy Sheriff's badge to open the can.

Philippe has no MacGyver game.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: misterqueue on April 07, 2006, 10:29:18 am
Clearly the best thing about this strip is the Ray/Beef interaction.  Ray has "Emergency" parties.  (Oh hell... I am out of Olives.  Emergency Party!)  Everyone knows Beef's neuroses and suchlike.

Also, looks like Emeril is going to be around more often, which I approve of.


Oh, and apparently Philippe was in this comic somewhere, whatever.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Mite on April 07, 2006, 11:13:03 am
I got all worried about the "flows to bay" sign, but then I realized he's a freakin' otter. That should be right up his alley. Right? Right?!
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: CortJstr on April 07, 2006, 12:55:38 pm
Although the little dude is 5.  He's travelled what, like three blocks from home before setting up camp?  He'll be all "Oh no I am going to die this is terrible!" and Teodor or someone will be out for a stroll and be all such as "Philippe, what are you doing over here?"

I assume the Emergency Party is to establish why nobody is looking for Philippe. Everybody's at Ray's getting their drink on and discussing Beef's narrowly averty macaroni disaster.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Hobo Frenzy on April 07, 2006, 01:20:47 pm
I love Philippe as much as the next guy...OK I love Philippe more than the next guy but this strip wasn't that great. I did like the looking both ways before exiting the house(?) and that he relies on a TV show (probably a cheap imitation of Bill Nye) to guide him to the couch. I suppose it all means more Philippe in the end so I'm happy with that.

And to those of you who say he should open the can with the star, that's utter plucky! Everyone knows in Star Robber Can (the classic hand game) that star trumps robber, robber beats can, and can beats star. This is a tin can were talking about here and most children's sheriff stars (especially otters') are made of plastic or the thinnest of the thin metal.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Hobot on April 07, 2006, 02:26:01 pm
I got all worried about the "flows to bay" sign, but then I realized he's a freakin' otter. That should be right up his alley. Right? Right?!

Philippe is not an otter; he is an alive stuffed otter.  If he falls into the creek, his plush-filled body will swell with water, and that will be the end of him.

I think Geology Greg might be a non-ethnic Jaime the Science Friend (http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=09272005).
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Beatrice on April 07, 2006, 02:27:35 pm
i ain't feelin it.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: FlipConstantine on April 07, 2006, 02:41:55 pm
Yeah, this was kind of a by-the-numbers strip, but I think we're being set up for something pretty entertaining here.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 07, 2006, 04:13:53 pm
USDA says refrigerate hot foods immediately (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:miZehwQJxZ4J:www.fsis.usda.gov/PDF/Refrigeration_and_Food_Safety.pdf+usda+refrigeration&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a) or put it in an ice or cold water bath before refrigerating.

Plus Fourier's Law supports this:


Q = (K x A x ΔT)/L

Q is the amount of heat transferred per second
K is the conductivity of your container
A is the surface area of the container
L is the thickness of the container

ΔT is the difference in temperature between your food product and the fridge

A larger difference means a faster cooling rate. Clearly this has diminishing returns as the food cools.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: acoxcae on April 07, 2006, 04:23:05 pm
The USDA also says to cook a turkey to 180 degrees - I'm not listening to those guys any more.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Drastic Action on April 07, 2006, 04:50:50 pm
Regardless of the USDA, why would it matter to put hot food in the fridge?  I've been trying to think of a reason.

Actually, crap, I just thought of one: putting something hot in there would increase the temperature of the fridge.  Like when I put my giant pot of curry in there.  I can imagine that it's radiating quite a bit of heat for a while.  I guess don't put hot stuff next to your milk, is the moral here then.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 07, 2006, 04:54:28 pm
Regardless of the USDA, why would it matter to put hot food in the fridge?  I've been trying to think of a reason.

Actually, crap, I just thought of one: putting something hot in there would increase the temperature of the fridge.  Like when I put my giant pot of curry in there.  I can imagine that it's radiating quite a bit of heat for a while.  I guess don't put hot stuff next to your milk, is the moral here then.

The folk wisdom is that a hot object in the fridge will spend more time in the 'danger zone' where deadly spoilage microorgansms such as Kenny Loggins may multiply. This betrays a fallacious belief that the rate of cooling is the same for a very hot object than for a lukewarm one. In fact, a hot object will cool faster than a lukewarm one, and then the rate of cooling will slow as the object approaches equilibrium with its surroundings. Thus a hot object in the fridge spends LESS time in the 'danger zone'.

Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: acoxcae on April 07, 2006, 04:57:47 pm
Regardless of the USDA, why would it matter to put hot food in the fridge?  I've been trying to think of a reason.

Actually, crap, I just thought of one: putting something hot in there would increase the temperature of the fridge.  Like when I put my giant pot of curry in there.  I can imagine that it's radiating quite a bit of heat for a while.  I guess don't put hot stuff next to your milk, is the moral here then.

Basically - the problem is, with something big enough (like a big pot of curry), it'll raise the temperature of the whole fridge above 40 degrees, and all your stuff will start sprouting deadly fungi and calling E. Coli in from out-of-town to come visit and whatnot.  For little things, like macaroni, it's not a huge deal - but big stuff should ideally be cooled before you refrigerate it.

Most of the time I only pay attention to this rule with something like a pot of soup - and sometimes I ignore it completely.  But if the temperature of your fridge is above 40 degrees, the USDA will come to your house and kill you.

The folk wisdom is that a hot object in the fridge will spend more time in the 'danger zone' where deadly spoilage microorgansms such as Kenny Loggins may multiply. This betrays a fallacious belief that the rate of cooling is the same for a very hot object than for a lukewarm one. In fact, a hot object will cool faster than a lukewarm one, and then the rate of cooling will slow as the object approaches equilibrium with its surroundings. Thus a hot object in the fridge spends LESS time in the 'danger zone'.


Ah, but a hot object in the fridge raises the temperature of the fridge to attain that equilibrium - and therein lies the problem.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 07, 2006, 05:05:53 pm
Basically - the problem is, with something big enough (like a big pot of curry), it'll raise the temperature of the whole fridge above 40 degrees, and all your stuff will start sprouting deadly fungi and calling E. Coli in from out-of-town to come visit and whatnot.  For little things, like macaroni, it's not a huge deal - but big stuff should ideally be cooled before you refrigerate it.

Most of the time I only pay attention to this rule with something like a pot of soup - and sometimes I ignore it completely.  But if the temperature of your fridge is above 40 degrees, the USDA will come to your house and kill you.
Ah, but a hot object in the fridge raises the temperature of the fridge to attain that equilibrium - and therein lies the problem.

Most modern fridges are able to remove heat via convection quite efficiently. To aid this, maximise the surface area to volume ratio. USDA also recommends big tureens of soup or such should be broken into multiple small containers and refrigerated.

Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: jough on April 07, 2006, 05:13:52 pm
Yeah, you shouldn't put pots into the fridge.  That is hell of fratish.

I save chinese food soup containers (plastic ones with water-tight lids, not those little cardboard red ones with the holes in the cardboard lid) and use them to store all kinds of stuff.

Oh, also, a little bacteria won't hurt you.  Don't be a pussy. 
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: acoxcae on April 07, 2006, 05:21:06 pm
Yeah, in most cases I cook that bacteria until it has had enough - and have never had a food-related illness.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to split soup into multiple smaller containers - I put it in the fridge overnight, and then I want to heat that whole pot up again the next day for dinner.  Sure, if I'm just going to have a bowl the next day, I'll split it up, but I don't make soup just for me.

Also, my fridge in my apartment is far to old to know how to remove heat.  It just caught on to this whole "making cold" issue, don't tell it to try to move air around as well or it might just curl up and die.  Until recently, the door squealed so bad every time I opened it that I considered just leaving food outside - it was cold enough, and I could stop re-living the shower scene from Psycho every time I made dinner.

Man, now I want some soup, but I know if I make it I'll be hell of conflicted about how to store it.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: swinehund on April 07, 2006, 05:31:10 pm
I second soup in individual small containers, and in the freezer. INFINITE VARIETY. I have like 11 kinds of homemade soup to choose from.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: CortJstr on April 07, 2006, 05:33:09 pm
Most modern fridges are able to remove heat via convection quite efficiently. To aid this, maximise the surface area to volume ratio. USDA also recommends big tureens of soup or such should be broken into multiple small containers and refrigerated.

Or you can go the Alton route (I believe this is from the chicken stock episode) and cool the entire pot in a cooler filled with ice water until it's close enough to fridge temp. Considering his frequent monologues on the superiority of convection I'm a little surprised he didn't include a tiny outboard motor into this setup.

Then there's always the Mythbusters route of just just shooting a fire extinguisher at the warm item in question and cool it right the fuck down.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Carlos del Vaca on April 07, 2006, 05:39:20 pm
I liked the Super-Secret Ice Cream Shoppe arc, in which Philippe was in peril due to the nefarious Nice Pete.  This time, he's in trouble due to his own stupidity, and I'm having a more difficult time caring.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: swinehund on April 07, 2006, 05:53:59 pm
I liked the Super-Secret Ice Cream Shoppe arc, in which Philippe was in peril due to the nefarious Nice Pete.  This time, he's in trouble due to his own stupidity, and I'm having a more difficult time caring.

Ditto.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: robot_god on April 07, 2006, 06:25:40 pm
I am pretty interested to see what Phillipe will do when he is rolling dolo.  The whole concept of Phillipe being arround is to analyze his thought process more than simply feel sorry if something bad happens.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AlohaDawg on April 07, 2006, 06:33:52 pm
Or you can go the Alton route (I believe this is from the chicken stock episode) and cool the entire pot in a cooler filled with ice water until it's close enough to fridge temp. Considering his frequent monologues on the superiority of convection I'm a little surprised he didn't include a tiny outboard motor into this setup.

Then there's always the Mythbusters route of just just shooting a fire extinguisher at the warm item in question and cool it right the fuck down.

Alton wears rubber gloves all the time, now. I don't know why considering he mxed things with his bare hands constantly during the first few seasons. I guess someone got on him - but the rubber gloves make him look so paranoid that I have trouble believing any safety things he says anymore.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Drastic Action on April 07, 2006, 06:47:12 pm
My fridge uses cardboard pieces and duct tape as shelves.  I highly doubt it can adequately handle the zany action that boiling pots of curry can induce.  I am glad that I realized this now, because I've still got at least 3 or 4 more servings left in the mother.  I will just leave it on the counter for a bit first.  And I second the dude who mentioned how it's inconvenient to keep putting it in separate containers - I made so much damned curry, that overall it'll be lasting a good 8-10 meals.  This means 8-10 days worth of not having to clean the pot that I'm cooking with (except for the rice in a smaller one).  I take good advantage of it, even it means I have no room for anything else in the fridge.
Title: Re: TWIST - CHOMP Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Golfhaus on April 07, 2006, 07:04:26 pm
Someone on this site the other day asked how he would open the can.  Nice call.

{picks up monogrammed horn, gives it a good long toot}

The last panel, of Philippe eating the Chap Stick, is the Saddest Thing.

Also, how does Ray know what the common knowledge is concerning when to put hot things in the fridge? He seems more like just-chuck-it sorta guy.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: EgoSumNoah on April 07, 2006, 07:06:55 pm
The atmosphere as he goes past those trees and skips across the creek, with that black water under a black sky. The atmosphere was spooky, but in a juvenile sort of way. Like cartoon ghosts.

I really liked this one.

Also, one more can for Acox, who understands thermodynamics.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 07, 2006, 07:40:57 pm
Yeah... I sort of can't see "not feeling" this one.

It ends with a five-year-old, "lost" in a marsh prob'ly two hundred yards away from home, deluded by his childish lack of perspective to the point where he thinks he's lost forever and fearfully dining on Wonderful Medicine. If that's not funny as hell in a split-second-twisted sorta way, I don't know what is. I think we all might just be a little spoiled by the layers and scale of the GOF, still.

Its kind of a good strategy to get people back into "regular" Achewood, actually, laying down a strafing-fire pattern of "so-sad-its-funny" immediately after the tactical nuke that was The Fight, to remind us... hey... strafing fire can really mess you up, too.

Or maybe it just reminds me of my early childhood in northern New York State, my father taking me on twenty-minute drives to West Canada, NY and telling me that we were lost in Western Canada and we would never get home. We would have to start a new life, bartering beaver pelts to earn ourselves a rough-hewn log-shack eventually.

I mean, I was five or six. I was Convinced.
Title: Re: TWIST - CHOMP Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 07, 2006, 07:48:55 pm
Also, how does Ray know what the common knowledge is concerning when to put hot things in the fridge? He seems more like just-chuck-it sorta guy.

Ray seems like the kind of guy who'll go on benders of watching "Good Eats" for six or ten hours in a row, stoned out of his mind, without much sinking in, just being entertained by puppets and the concept of a molecule... but whatever actual facts sink in? Really Sink In, y'know? Like they're added to a rolodex of very-specific out-of-context facts in the back of Ray's head that he has to share whenever he can, to prove that he Knows A Thing Or Two.

He'll probably occasionally just blurt out when people are making soup that soup was originally made in an animal skin draped over a fire, the water keeping the animal skin from ever burning. And he'll be absolutely sure that he's completely helping.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: misterqueue on April 07, 2006, 07:55:56 pm
I got the feeling both Ray and Emeril just saw this as a typical "Beef Rule".  Like the creekbed (ie Earthquakes).  So not so much that they'd know "common wisdom" as they just know Herr Beef well enough.
Title: Re: TWIST - CHOMP Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: goldenchurchhill on April 07, 2006, 07:56:34 pm
Also, how does Ray know what the common knowledge is concerning when to put hot things in the fridge? He seems more like just-chuck-it sorta guy.

Ray has probably never eaten a left-over in his life.  Maybe if it was like 4 in the morning and they had broke into some Blue Nun bigmouths at like 3.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Climalene on April 07, 2006, 07:58:04 pm
I picture Geology Greg being much more like Rudy Mancke (http://naturenotes.thecolumbiarecord.com/) than Bill Nye -- kind of dour, does little 60-second bits on the local NPR station, leads the occasional nature hike. 
Title: Re: TWIST - CHOMP Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: goldenchurchhill on April 07, 2006, 07:58:42 pm
Ray seems like the kind of guy who'll go on benders of watching "Good Eats" for six or ten hours in a row, stoned out of his mind, without much sinking in, just being entertained by puppets and the concept of a molecule... but whatever actual facts sink in? Really Sink In, y'know? Like they're added to a rolodex of very-specific out-of-context facts in the back of Ray's head that he has to share whenever he can, to prove that he Knows A Thing Or Two.

He'll probably occasionally just blurt out when people are making soup that soup was originally made in an animal skin draped over a fire, the water keeping the animal skin from ever burning. And he'll be absolutely sure that he's completely helping.



I know, I know.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: jough on April 07, 2006, 08:01:36 pm
I just finished downloading these (http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=good+eats) and they're excellent.  I've only started watching the show somewhat recently, but man, I learn something from every single episode.  Good times.

Also, if anyone from Be Square Productions or Food TV is reading this, I'd totally buy every season on DVD if you fuck*ng put them out, assholes.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: swinehund on April 07, 2006, 08:03:24 pm
Or maybe it just reminds me of my early childhood in northern New York State, my father taking me on twenty-minute drives to West Canada, NY and telling me that we were lost in Western Canada and we would never get home. We would have to start a new life, bartering beaver pelts to earn ourselves a rough-hewn log-shack eventually.

You make it sound so awesome. Real manly, like.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 07, 2006, 08:11:41 pm
See, whereas Emeril probably learned this from "Good Eats" too... except not in an accidental way at all.

Emeril probably watches Food Network with such-as a large binder filled with loose-leaf paper, taking notes on every new thing he learns and filing them away in a very organized fashion, to study and possibly quiz himself on at a later date. I assume he's proud of doing this, in general, but downplays the extent to which he is meticulously devoted to it. As though its a noble endeavour on the surface but suspects, to himself, that its a little weird to be SO into it.

I'd reckon there are three shows he does not take such notes on:

Bobby Flay, on account of Bobby Flay being a douche...

Rachel Ray, because he used to have a huge crush on her and had his heart broken by how she's slowly ditched the girl-next-door thing for the dressing-like-a-whore-to-look-obstensively-younger thing...

...and Molto Mario because he feels it would be somehow an attack on his own manhood to pay close attention to someone who is so clearly a Gay Bear.

Everyone else, he's got a whole sub-section of his binder for each.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: wombat on April 07, 2006, 08:33:01 pm

...and Molto Mario because he feels it would be somehow an attack on his own manhood to pay close attention to someone who is so clearly a Gay Bear.


Noooo!!

I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that...
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: evan on April 07, 2006, 10:32:53 pm
Emeril probably watches Food Network with such-as a large binder filled with loose-leaf paper, taking notes on every new thing he learns and filing them away in a very organized fashion, to study and possibly quiz himself on at a later date. I assume he's proud of doing this, in general, but downplays the extent to which he is meticulously devoted to it. As though its a noble endeavour on the surface but suspects, to himself, that its a little weird to be SO into it.

I bet Emeril really really hates the REAL Emeril.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Omegatron on April 07, 2006, 10:53:01 pm
This betrays a fallacious belief that the rate of cooling is the same for a very hot object than for a lukewarm one. In fact, a hot object will cool faster than a lukewarm one, and then the rate of cooling will slow as the object approaches equilibrium with its surroundings. Thus a hot object in the fridge spends LESS time in the 'danger zone'.

Utter bollocks.  Cooling rate is not the same as total cooling time. 

That's like saying a guy in a car two miles away from the finish line will beat a guy on a bike two feet away.  "But the car is faster!"
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 07, 2006, 11:12:03 pm
I bet Emeril really really hates the REAL Emeril.

I would suspect that he respects Emeril's cooking and likes that type of food... but dislikes "real" Emeril's empty showmanship.

Probably detests the "Emeril Live" show, with its lame music and guests and such, but likes "The Essence of Emeril" a lot more than he'd care to admit.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AlohaDawg on April 07, 2006, 11:25:30 pm
I would suspect that he respects Emeril's cooking and likes that type of food... but dislikes "real" Emeril's empty showmanship.

Probably detests the "Emeril Live" show, with its lame music and guests and such, but likes "The Essence of Emeril" a lot more than he'd care to admit.

I doubt this too. The premise is that a hot dish cools faster, but the rate of cooling must go down as the hot dish cools. So it stands to reason that it would spend the most time in a lukewarm state - the slowest cooling according to the premise - and therefore, the blooming of bacteria would still occur. The only difference between leaving it on the countertop to cool and putting it in the icebox or a sinkfull of ice or whatever is the ability of the fridge to actively push energy at the problem by kicking on the compressor when the inside of the fridge gets too warm - but by then you're risking all of the food getting a bacterial bloom.

All the arguments on either side notwithstanding, humans lived for thousands of years before refrigerators and some people believe that the utter paranoia with which we protect ourselves from inocuous germs by routinely and sometimes needlessly disnifecting will lead to the evolution of ubiquitous unkillable pathogens.

Now there is something to be afraid of.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Lister on April 07, 2006, 11:54:00 pm
The concept of the emergency party is awesome.  "Get me a copy of "Shout" and a bag of chips STAT!" is how I imagine things going down.

As for the hot things in the refrigerator discussion:

Taking soup off the boil and putting that pot directly in the refrigerator is bad.  It will heat up the whole thing and probably do something nasty to the plastic shelves.

Letting a huge hot pot slowly attain room temperature before you put it in the refrigerator is bad too, but only for the stuff in the pot.

What I do is put the pot in the sink, run cold water around it, then throw some ice in the water and stir the pot until it stops feeling hot to the touch.  Then it goes in the fridge, and neither my cheese nor my shelves melt.  Plus I don't run out of patience.

That's it, I'm making chili.  Mmmmmmm.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Drastic Action on April 08, 2006, 12:24:12 am
Yeah, that would be fine.  And I'd imagine that anything left out to cool could gather bacteria.  So.....  you make a turkey for thanksgiving, how long is there turkey sitting around?  Howsabout a block of cheese at a party?  You know, these are things I really don't concern myself with, so I'm not going to lose sleep at night because my pot of curry, filled with crazy spices, is going to start growing awesome bacteria.  Especially since I'm going to boil the ##### off it when I go to eat it next.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AlohaDawg on April 08, 2006, 12:27:08 am
You'll be fine for the most part if you don't eat anything that is obviously spoiled.

Seriously, for all of human history prior to about 70 years ago, no fridges and humanity survived.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AugustWest on April 08, 2006, 12:52:11 am

What I do is put the pot in the sink, run cold water around it, then throw some ice in the water and stir the pot until it stops feeling hot to the touch.  Then it goes in the fridge, and neither my cheese nor my shelves melt.  Plus I don't run out of patience.


That's what I do too, only without the ice.  Still seems to cool down very quickly.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Hobot on April 08, 2006, 02:30:03 am
All the arguments on either side notwithstanding, humans lived for thousands of years before refrigerators and some people believe that the utter paranoia with which we protect ourselves from inocuous germs by routinely and sometimes needlessly disnifecting will lead to the evolution of ubiquitous unkillable pathogens.

Now there is something to be afraid of.

Our immune system has memory cells that prevent us from getting re-infected with something our B cells (which secrete antibodies) or T cells (lymphocytes) have encountered in the past.  If we shield ourselves from common pathogens with antibacterial hand soap and antiviral tissues, we are crippling our immune response by not allowing our B and T cells to react and clone themselves into the aforementioned memory cells.  This, in effect, encourages spontaneous mutation of the pathogens into a form that cannot be killed with antibacterial and antiviral products, and the result is viruses and bacteria that can do a lot more damage than can the common cold.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AlohaDawg on April 08, 2006, 02:35:45 am
Our immune system has memory cells that prevent us from getting re-infected with something our B cells (which secrete antibodies) or T cells (lymphocytes) have encountered in the past.  If we shield ourselves from common pathogens with antibacterial hand soap and antiviral tissues, we are crippling our immune response by not allowing our B and T cells to react and clone themselves into the aforementioned memory cells.  This, in effect, encourages spontaneous mutation of the pathogens into a form that cannot be killed with antibacterial and antiviral products, and the result is viruses and bacteria that can do a lot more damage than can the common cold.

Well, crippling is a strong term and so far, no massive community outbreaks of deadly ubiquitous pathogens have happened (plenty in hospitals, which disinfect constantly though, and what does THAT tell you) but, yeah, too damn much use of disinfectants makes it worse and not better.

Last night, a guy died of massive overwhelming infection (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Apr/07/br/br06p.html) 3 days after falling into gross poopy water in Honolulu. Only in his 30s.



Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Omegatron on April 08, 2006, 03:02:41 am
All the arguments on either side notwithstanding, humans lived for thousands of years before refrigerators and some people believe that the utter paranoia with which we protect ourselves from inocuous germs by blah blah blah

You've never had food poisoning, have you?

Both ends, man.  At the same time.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: jough on April 08, 2006, 03:08:29 am
You know how flu shots work, right?  They give you the flu, but just a little bit of it, and then your body produces the antibodies but never really gets sick.

I think my not worrying about letting food sit out, and living in a house with 3 2 a cats has actually made me healthier.  I haven't gotten a cold in about three years.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: wombat on April 08, 2006, 08:47:51 pm
I hate to drag a thread back on topic yet again - sorry, a lot of catching up to do lately - but I've just noticed that Phillippe has the oddest hands in the first panel of the last line, like little cloven pig's hooves.  I know he might not have the hands of real otters (like these (http://www.rebsig.com/kogepan/achefood.html)) and that the more relevant reference would be the fifth picture here (http://www.achewood.com/about.php), which seem to correspond to other renderings of his appendages.  But where did he get those disturbing little hooves.  Ick.

Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Hobot on April 08, 2006, 09:11:23 pm
I hate to drag a thread back on topic yet again - sorry, a lot of catching up to do lately - but I've just noticed that Phillippe has the oddest hands in the first panel of the last line, like little cloven pig's hooves.  I know he might not have the hands of real otters (like these (http://www.rebsig.com/kogepan/achefood.html)) and that the more relevant reference would be the fifth picture here (http://www.achewood.com/about.php), which seem to correspond to other renderings of his appendages.  But where did he get those disturbing little hooves.  Ick.

Ew, you're right!  Also, I noticed that it looks like he is wearing the Walk-Around Butt in panel 6 (or at least that his little stuffed otter bum is unusually well-defined, but that makes me feel like a stuffed otter pedophile, which is not what I'm going for at all).
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: robot_god on April 08, 2006, 10:32:54 pm
Ew, you're right!  Also, I noticed that it looks like he is wearing the Walk-Around Butt in panel 6 (or at least that his little stuffed otter bum is unusually well-defined, but that makes me feel like a stuffed otter pedophile, which is not what I'm going for at all).

There could be many explanations for Philippe's ass.  In the past, he has been known to gain weight sporadically and wear exceptionally baggy #####.




Whuddaya know, it seems that I am more like Philippe than I previously thought.  But they don't get that baggy.

Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: wombat on April 08, 2006, 10:51:06 pm
Ew, you're right!  Also, I noticed that it looks like he is wearing the Walk-Around Butt in panel 6 (or at least that his little stuffed otter bum is unusually well-defined, but that makes me feel like a stuffed otter pedophile, which is not what I'm going for at all).

Uh oh, Hobot digs ladies, fellows and otters, people.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Hobot on April 08, 2006, 11:06:51 pm
Uh oh, Hobot digs ladies, fellows and otters, people.

And now you know my Terrible Secret.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: misterqueue on April 08, 2006, 11:14:37 pm
And now you know my Terrible Secret.


...Hot?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Franz. on April 09, 2006, 01:56:06 pm
I got all worried about the "flows to bay" sign, but then I realized he's a freakin' otter. That should be right up his alley. Right? Right?!

It's not the first time Philippe has flowed to the bay (http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=05202004).
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 09, 2006, 09:46:38 pm
And now you know my Terrible Secret.

Your veganism?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Hobot on April 09, 2006, 11:18:13 pm
Your veganism?

Better make that "second Terrible Secret."
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: MattFish on April 10, 2006, 10:44:28 am
What are we not going to like come Tuesday?  :-\
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Mite on April 10, 2006, 11:31:30 am
I'm envisioning a Parking-Lot-Is-Full-style creepout. I hope I'm right.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: mrdna1 on April 10, 2006, 11:53:22 am
Either we're going to have another Super Secret Ice Cream-type strip, or the storyline is just going to vanish in favor of Ray's emergency party.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Golfhaus on April 10, 2006, 12:42:12 pm
Or it's gonna be, "Strip returns Wednesday." I wouldn't like to see that.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: CortJstr on April 10, 2006, 01:00:58 pm
Or it's gonna be, "Strip returns Wednesday." I wouldn't like to see that.

Nooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 10, 2006, 01:14:47 pm
What are we not going to like come Tuesday?  :-\

"We Return Wednesday."
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AugustWest on April 10, 2006, 03:01:36 pm
Tomorrow: Chicken.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 10, 2006, 03:08:38 pm
Tomorrow: Chicken.

That reminds me, I need to find food grade metal bearings.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: robot_god on April 10, 2006, 04:32:14 pm
What are we not going to like come Tuesday?  :-\

Onstad is going to show "da ballz."
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Jeepers on April 10, 2006, 04:49:08 pm
Strip: You will not like what you see come Tuesday.


Maybe he will make Phillipe die. Maybe Nice Pete will be waiting in the bay to greet Phillipe and he will love him in his open arms and commit the murder act upon him to save him from the inevitable sin of puberty.

Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: misterqueue on April 10, 2006, 05:00:19 pm
See, I believe that he's personally pissed off that I guessed it was Emeril's blog so fast and the thing I will not like is Philippe having a party with a bunch of dancing cakes and pink bunnies and other saccharine bullshit.

But then I'm self-centered, so this is probably not likely at all.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: ryanpeq on April 10, 2006, 06:09:20 pm
Strip: You will not like what you see come Tuesday.


Maybe he will make Phillipe die. Maybe Nice Pete will be waiting in the bay to greet Phillipe and he will love him in his open arms and commit the murder act upon him to save him from the inevitable sin of puberty.


i would kind of like to see phillipe die

not because i don't like phillipe but because i think his interpretation of heaven will be hilarious - if it's not still burned down, anyway.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: theinevitable on April 10, 2006, 06:36:57 pm
I want phillipe to go to heaven.

so, um, picking as my user name a word which people use in normal conversation is a... choice. not neccesarily a bad one, but...

I turn around and look every time someone says "inevitable" at school. i get excited whenever I see that word used, because i think "hey thats me!"

it is a mess.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: jough on April 10, 2006, 06:43:57 pm
Maybe he will make Phillipe die. Maybe Nice Pete will be waiting in the bay to greet Phillipe and he will love him in his open arms and commit the murder act upon him to save him from the inevitable sin of puberty.

Creepers.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 10, 2006, 07:42:12 pm
i would kind of like to see phillipe die

not because i don't like phillipe but because i think his interpretation of heaven will be hilarious - if it's not still burned down, anyway.

it would be great if phillipe's afterlife experience was lovecraftian.. eternal devouring at the callous, uncaring maw of Lord Zuthulu or such.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: misterqueue on April 10, 2006, 07:52:23 pm
it would be great if phillipe's afterlife experience was lovecraftian.. eternal devouring at the callous, uncaring maw of Lord Zuthulu or such.


Ia! Ia!  The Dark Lord of Huuuuugs arises!

Nylarthotep all dancing around with a walkaround butt.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 10, 2006, 07:57:44 pm
Ia! Ia!  The Dark Lord of Huuuuugs arises!

Nylarthotep all dancing around with a walkaround butt.

It would be great if Onstad used a hyperreal graphic style akin to Dali showing Phillipe torn limb from limb, entrails and all, by all manner of terrible, full-color demons. Basically, Hieronymous Bosch's depiction of Hell if Bosch had access to vector drawing suites. A full week of this, each a giant one-panel with a host of demons attacking and mutiliating Phillipe, with the lines of the artwork drawn to the silent, hopeless scream on Phillipe's face.

Then, next week, everything is back to normal and Phillipe asks Lie Bot what the saddest thing is, and Lie Bot gives his answer but Lyle comes in and vomits on him.

That would be a very Onstadlian thing to do.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Formica on April 10, 2006, 08:04:49 pm
I just finished downloading these (http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=good+eats) and they're excellent.  I've only started watching the show somewhat recently, but man, I learn something from every single episode.  Good times.

Also, if anyone from Be Square Productions or Food TV is reading this, I'd totally buy every season on DVD if you fuck*ng put them out, assholes.


Jefe:
http://store.foodnetwork.com/shop/product.asp?product_code=4562&department_code=8&category_code=95&subcategory_code=94&search_type=viewall

Their site is not easily navigated, but they have single volume sets in there, too.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: jough on April 10, 2006, 08:28:12 pm
Their site is not easily navigated, but they have single volume sets in there, too.

Yeah, and not one of them is a full season set.  They're all "theme" DVDs.

I just want every episode, in order, in season sets.  Is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: V-Adore on April 10, 2006, 09:09:00 pm
I don't know -- can you even murder Philippe in a Boschian way? He's an alive stuffed animal. Presumably it'd be, like, being cut open with stuffing spilling out, in which case it might as well be your average five-year-old as Lovecraftian gibbering things.

(Insert obvious jokes about the two being synonymous here)
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Bobby Isosceles on April 10, 2006, 09:26:13 pm
I don't know -- can you even murder Philippe in a Boschian way? He's an alive stuffed animal. Presumably it'd be, like, being cut open with stuffing spilling out, in which case it might as well be your average five-year-old as Lovecraftian gibbering things.

(Insert obvious jokes about the two being synonymous here)

I think that for the purposes of latter Achewood, phillipe has blood and internal organs and generally can be ripped apart limb from limb, with actual gore. Or perhaps he can be sodomized by a goat or something. Basically, the goal here is to terrify the audience and then end it with a party or a one off joke. Such is the Onstadian way.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: swinehund on April 10, 2006, 10:37:22 pm
Or perhaps he can be sodomized by a goat or something. Basically, the goal here is to terrify the audience and then end it with a party or a one off joke. Such is the Onstadian way.

Oh my goodness, I'm imagining he gets yiffed.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 10, 2006, 11:11:49 pm
Oh my goodness, I'm imagining he gets yiffed.

"Yiff" is one of those words that I've been doing my best to pretend doesn't exist... that is to say, only exists as a joke or a trick. As though it is one long running gag throughout the internet, "pretending" that people are into imagining themselves as werewolves for sexual purposes, "pretending" that people are into rubbing up against Shamrock-Stomach Bear to climax, etc.

It is a happy world I live in, where furrism and plushism are merely the largest-scale Andy Kaufman-style prank ever, thousands of websites all in on this joke, and no one is actually wacking-the-mole or nulling-the-void to the fantasy of boinking a half-duck. It's all a big hoax.

I also believe that no one in England actually says "shite" or "line up in a queue" or actually refers to an elevator as a "lift" or anything like that... and that this is actually a prank being played, by the entire United Kingdom, on clueless American Anglophiles to see if they'll actually use such nonsense words.

They put such terms in songs and television shows only so that they can giggle when idiots from The Colonies use them, thinking that it makes them cool. "Haha," they might say, "this idiot from Long Beach said that he keeps his Oasis CDs in the boot of his car! Score one for us!"

It is fun and healthy to pretend that all things disgusting or lame are actually pranks.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: swinehund on April 10, 2006, 11:33:44 pm
I also used to (half consciously, not actually) believe that manufactured goods in Europe were made not in factories, but by elves.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Drygioni on April 10, 2006, 11:37:11 pm
I also believe that no one in England actually says "shite" or "line up in a queue" or actually refers to an elevator as a "lift" or anything like that... and that this is actually a prank being played, by the entire United Kingdom, on clueless American Anglophiles to see if they'll actually use such nonsense words.

Believe it or not, these expressions are actually in incredibly common usage in old Blighty. No-one calls lifts anything BUT lifts here, JUST THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: FlipConstantine on April 10, 2006, 11:41:49 pm
I also believe that no one in England actually says "shite" or "line up in a queue" or actually refers to an elevator as a "lift" or anything
It is fun and healthy to pretend that all things disgusting or lame are actually pranks.

I pretend that the Church Of England was made up by Monty Python and is just a huge joke.  How awesome would that be?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AlohaDawg on April 10, 2006, 11:54:34 pm
Believe it or not, these expressions are actually in incredibly common usage in old Blighty. No-one calls lifts anything BUT lifts here, JUST THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

Do people say 'c-nt' in real life as much as they seem to in movies?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Drygioni on April 10, 2006, 11:59:25 pm
Depends how many fuck*ng whiny rebellious teenagers there are in the room, trying to offend the other fuck*ng whiny rebellious teenagers in the room.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Hobot on April 11, 2006, 12:05:39 am
Do people say 'c-nt' in real life as much as they seem to in movies?


Cent?  That's what you mean, right?

I'm glad we cleared that up.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: swinehund on April 11, 2006, 12:17:57 am

Cent?  That's what you mean, right?

I'm glad we cleared that up.

I thought they used pence.
They're using 'cent' as a swear? Is this an anti-North American and the Continent thing?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: theinevitable on April 11, 2006, 12:41:58 am
last I heard, they used "cent" because of a reference to "5 percent"-- something about the revolutionary war being won by the Americans because of a 5% difference in killed-to-killed ratio. It became popular earlier in the century, as they began resenting the way the US was on the rise, and their empire was on the decline.

I believe the original full swear was "well that's just the 5%, isn't it!"

as in:

Hm. Chesterfield seems to be down by just a point, and this is the last penalty kick.
Damn! they missed it! That's just... that's just the 5% for Leeds United, then.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: miles on April 11, 2006, 01:06:56 am

C-nt?  That's what you mean, right?

I'm glad we cleared that up.

Really, Jough?  Can we make sure to filter c-nt from now on?  Think of the children!
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 11, 2006, 01:11:35 am
Believe it or not, these expressions are actually in incredibly common usage in old Blighty. No-one calls lifts anything BUT lifts here, JUST THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

Pfft. If you wanna play the game and pretend you're not just part of the conspiracy, that's fine.

No skin off my "bollocks" if you're having fun with us, clearly, a lot of American idiots have fallen for it and it IS funny.  I'm just sayin' that I'm onto you.

All I ask is that you level with me and admit that watching soccer is about as fun as watching two guys you've never met play Pong for three hours straight. "Oh wow... he... almost scored a point but... didn't again. That could happen, what, three or four times today, huh?"

Not that PLAYING soccer isn't fun... because, hell, playing PONG is a little fun too, sparingly.

But watching it?

Come on, you're having fun with us, pretending you're so into such A Boring Thing.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: CortJstr on April 11, 2006, 02:03:34 am
Not that PLAYING soccer isn't fun... because, hell, playing PONG is a little fun too, sparingly.

But watching it?

Come on, you're having fun with us, pretending you're so into such A Boring Thing.

Because baseball is a thrill a minute. Basically any non-scripted sport tends to be boring as hell with way too much downtime compared to the movie version.

I also didn't know that British people took the time to say "see hyphen en tee." Of course if you believe newspapers Americans say "hyphen" all the fuck*ng time.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: pmcd9 on April 11, 2006, 03:55:32 am
If you c-nts start talking about fuck*ng wrestling I'm gonna lock this thread in the loo.

~Paul
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: swinehund on April 11, 2006, 03:57:04 am
last I heard, they used "cent" because of a reference to "5 percent"-- something about the revolutionary war being won by the Americans because of a 5% difference in killed-to-killed ratio. It became popular earlier in the century, as they began resenting the way the US was on the rise, and their empire was on the decline.

I believe the original full swear was "well that's just the 5%, isn't it!"

as in:

Hm. Chesterfield seems to be down by just a point, and this is the last penalty kick.
Damn! they missed it! That's just... that's just the 5% for Leeds United, then.

I've alternately heard it's one of those Cockney rhyming slang things, and is meant as a slight against one's mothers' size, implying that she wears tents as dresses.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: CortJstr on April 11, 2006, 02:16:24 pm
If you c-nts start talking about fuck*ng wrestling I'm gonna lock this thread in the loo.

So you know that Jushin "Thunder" Liger was suppsed to be at Lockdown to take on the X Division champion but it turns out he can't make it because of scheduling conflicts. Lame.

Also, The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith's son just signed w/ WWE.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: theinevitable on April 11, 2006, 03:15:26 pm
hmm.
a teacher (english literature) at my school says that it comes from WWII-- a reference to putting pennies over the eyes of the dead. But do they call them c-nts over there?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: pmcd9 on April 11, 2006, 06:09:28 pm
But do they call them c-nts over there?

Yes.

~Paul
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: AlohaDawg on April 11, 2006, 06:19:42 pm
hmm.
a teacher (english literature) at my school says that it comes from WWII-- a reference to putting pennies over the eyes of the dead. But do they call them c-nts over there?

How does that reference work? That's not an American thing and it's a remote european one - that tradition goes back to well before WWII.

Unless you mean the C-nt referring to the bearded clam, in which case I'm really confused about the penny and WWII.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: pmcd9 on April 11, 2006, 06:25:58 pm
My ex used to say, whenever she went to the toilet "I'm going to spend a penny."  When I pressed her for an explanation she said that in olden times it cost a penny to use a public toilet in England.

~Paul
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: smick on April 11, 2006, 06:29:35 pm
If that's the case, what the hell is the story behind "I've got to go see a man about a hoss."?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Drygioni on April 11, 2006, 07:04:27 pm
My ex used to say, whenever she went to the toilet "I'm going to spend a penny."  When I pressed her for an explanation she said that in olden times it cost a penny to use a public toilet in England.

~Paul

See also: Park a jolly. In an interesting coincidence, the daughter of Trigger Happy TV star Dom Joli has a daughter called Parker.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 11, 2006, 09:53:59 pm
Appropriate of nothing, I just looked at the text under Judyetc's avatar and realized that it is actually a picture of Iggy Pop.

I had been operating under the assumption that it was a picture of Ellen DeGeneres since I joined this message board.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Mite on April 11, 2006, 09:58:08 pm
He looked like he'd been rode hard and put away wet even back in the day. Yikes.

And now that you mention it, I totally see the Ellen resemblance. Maybe it's just this crummy monitor.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: misterqueue on April 11, 2006, 10:02:04 pm
He looked like he'd been rode hard and put away wet.

Hey don't knock that.  Some of my most fondly remembered nights ended that way.


Obligatory Sick Fuck Comment Warning: Ahhh pre-school... those were the days.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: Mite on April 11, 2006, 11:56:30 pm
You gotta watch that, though. You'll mildew, and then you've either got to throw yourself out or boil yourself for 15 minutes.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: wombat on April 12, 2006, 02:10:12 am
Appropriate of nothing, I just looked at the text under Judyetc's avatar and realized that it is actually a picture of Iggy Pop.

I had been operating under the assumption that it was a picture of Ellen DeGeneres since I joined this message board.

I had been assuming that it was some famous person named Judy who I didn't recognize.  And I had no idea why the text underneath was the title of a movie about Van Gogh.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: pmcd9 on April 12, 2006, 02:23:14 am
I had no idea why the text underneath was the title of a movie about Van Gogh.

No silly, it's the Carnival Cruise Lines theme song.

~Paul
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: robot_god on April 12, 2006, 02:58:46 am
That's Iggy Pop?  I thought it was the guy that gets hustled in the montage in The Color of Money.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: littlefallsmets on April 12, 2006, 05:22:47 am
No silly, it's the Carnival Cruise Lines theme song.

Am I the only one completely surprised that Weird Al hasn't done a song to that tune yet?

Something about winning lunch for life off the MacDonalds Monopoly game or somesuch?

It seems to Write Itself.
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: goldenchurchhill on April 12, 2006, 07:04:22 am
No silly, it's the Carnival Cruise Lines theme song.

~Paul

Do they know it is about heroin?
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: pmcd9 on April 12, 2006, 12:44:43 pm
Do they know it is about heroin?

A Carnival Cruise is the new heroin.

~Paul
Title: Re: TWIST CHOMP -- Apr. 7, 2006.
Post by: smick on April 12, 2006, 03:51:34 pm
That's the attraction, isn't it?   I mean, once you're out in international waters.