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[CortJstr]

Where is the Mason and Dixon line again?  In Maryland?

It's the MD-PA border

[Carlos del Vaca]

Hey, I live in Northern Virginia. It's only a matter of time before we become our own state.

Hells yeah!  Northern Virginia Statehood now!  See how the rest of you lot like it when we take our tax base and go home.

[AlohaDawg]

Also, Chicago is HELL of Midwestern and I've never seen a silo or a cornfield there.

In re: Northwestern:
"Northwestern University is a private institution founded in 1851 to serve the Northwest Territory, an area that now includes the states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and part of Minnesota. In 1853 the founders purchased a 379-acre tract of land on the shore of Lake Michigan 12 miles north of Chicago. They established a campus and developed the land near it, naming the surrounding town Evanston in honor of one of the University's founders, John Evans. After completing its first building in 1855, Northwestern began classes that fall with two faculty members and 10 students."(http://www.northwestern.edu/about/facts/)



The biggest argument I see in this thread is that Paul wants a little more literal interpretation of what is North, South, East, and West without the need to check against historical artifact place names, and culture, while others want to apply those filters to the information.

I think "Southern" is a culture which is why "Southern" states don't include Florida - or Texas, Arizona, New Mexico. All are pretty far south but hardly "Southern".

[jough]

There's already a West Virginia.  We can even split NJ between PA and NY and keep the 50 states.

[KeithHernandez]

I would say Texas is not the south, the panhandle of Flordia is about the most southern state there is, but the rest of Florida is not in the south, that Oklahoma is as hard to classify as Texas, and that I kind of live in the south and have never seen the word snoball, only snocone or shaved ice.

[wombat]

Where is the Mason and Dixon line again?  In Maryland?

I have never understood who died and left Mason and Dixon boss.  Someone with a snoball stand, I suspect.

[theinevitable]

yeah, here in NC it's a "sno(w)cone".

also: apparently in the Deep South they call a soda or pop a "coke." Hmm.

[pmcd9]

Here is what the U.S. Census Bureau thinks.

Apparently i'm heading south.  That's what happens when you let Tom Delay draw the census map.

~Paul

[pmcd9]

Yeah, it's snow cone in Texas too.  Texas must be in the North.

~Paul

[KeithHernandez]

Man, when I was a kid, I would always get coke at restaurants, even though I wanted some other type of soda.  I simply thought you said coke and they would know what you want, I guess (well yea, Coke).  So yes, people do refer to it as coke in like the plains area, at least where I am.  You get friends from out of state and hell of fights errupt over what soda is called:

"Soda sounds gay"
"Coke is a name brand"
"well, I call it pop"

So many lame arguments, so much more time for lame arguments.

In the arguments I had over this trying issue, the soda and coke people would always win.  No one ever liked the people that called it pop.

[Drygioni]

You lot are terrifying. Why can it not be like this? WHY CAN THIS NOT MAKE SENSE?

[pmcd9]

Why can it not be like this?

It is, just some people won't admit it.

~Paul

[KeithHernandez]

Culture, Judy, culture.  Florida is very SE, but doesn't fit into the stereotypes/traditions that the south has.  Etc, etc.

[pmcd9]

Finally some Validation.

[jay-ell]

Damn, I started reading this thread, and I was like, "Mite is back?  And misterqueue?  And...when did Jough move back to Philly?  And...oh, dammit, 2006, why do you taunt me so?" 

Dammit. 

Also, I'm not here.