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[pmcd9]

Hey everybody, puns are allowed now.

~Paul

[jough]

How many times do we have to explain how the pun works.

The above was NOT a pun.  A play on words, perhaps, but not a pun.

See, all puns are plays on words, but not all plays on words are puns.

Abraham Lincoln was a man, but not all men are Abraham Lincoln.

This is metaphysics / AI 101 here, people.

[St_Zartan]

More or less, and there's presumably also whatever "flavor" ("lemon-lime?" "fruit?" "human liver?") Mountain Dew has. I simply cannot entirely parse why one would drink Mountain Dew for the flavor; I can buy it for Coke (I mostly drink Coke for the actual taste) and other sodas, but drinking Mountain Dew for the flavor strikes me as being like drinking Bud Light for its rich bouquet of taste sensations.

I think Mountain Dew is supposed to be "citrus"; this not from any direct experience of anything remotely citrusy, but from the fact that I once bought a store-brand Mountain Dew knock-off called Citrus Drop (they'd even bothered to cook up its own snappy slogan - pop the drop). It was two 2-liter bottles for a buck, and mixed pretty okay with the cheapshit vodka I drink assuming nothing else was at hand.

But, um - I like the taste of Mountain Dew. I like beers like Milwaukee's Best Light and Olympia. Can this be at all legitimized, or do I just like bad things?

[pmcd9]

But, um - I like the taste of Mountain Dew. I like beers like Milwaukee's Best Light and Olympia. Can this be at all legitimized, or do I just like bad things?

Uhhh, at least you're not drinking Schaefer.

~Paul

[Pedro Picasso]

How many times do we have to explain how the pun works.

The above was NOT a pun.  A play on words, perhaps, but not a pun.

See, all puns are plays on words, but not all plays on words are puns.

WordNet disagrees with you, and it's on the internet so it must be true.

pun
     n : a humorous play on words; "I do it for the pun of it"; "his
         constant punning irritated her" [syn: punning, wordplay,
          paronomasia]

[pmcd9]

How many times do we have to explain how the pun works.

The above was NOT a pun.  A play on words, perhaps, but not a pun.

See, all puns are plays on words, but not all plays on words are puns.

Abraham Lincoln was a man, but not all men are Abraham Lincoln.

This is metaphysics / AI 101 here, people.

Ok, I’ll rephrase my statement.  Hey everybody, plays on words, which bear a striking resemblance to puns, and are equally unfunny, are now allowed.

~Paul

[AugustWest]

I like beers like Milwaukee's Best Light and Olympia. Can this be at all legitimized, or do I just like bad things?

MMMMMmmmm.  The Beast.  I like Milwaukee's Beast, too.

[AugustWest]

Fearless Leader, Guapo, I must confess that I am confused by the distinction between a play on words and a pun.  Could you provide example of each for my enlightenment?

Thanks in advance!

[slink]

Well, saying that you were 'AugustBest' would be a nasty, pitiful and unforgivable pun.
It's using a word that sounds just like another, in place of it, to give a different meaning.

[V-Adore]

Well, if you want to be honest, I more or less like the taste of Dew too. I was just under the impression that nobody actually drank it for the flavor, for which I was grievously mistaken. Forgive me, Acheboard friends.

[Pedro Picasso]

Well, saying that you were 'AugustBest' would be a nasty, pitiful and unforgivable pun.
It's using a word that sounds just like another, in place of it, to give a different meaning.

Actually, I think Jough is referring to the unbastardized Webster's 1913 definition puts a pun as a play on a word's homonym specifically.  For instance:

"Why are Japanese legislators so skinny?  Because they're members of the diet."

Diet meaning both prescribed rules for eating and a legislative body used in several countries such as Germany, Poland, and Japan.  Get it?  Skinny legislators?

If I am correct, the weaker definition of a pun as any play on words and not just on words with multiple meanings has only recently gained acceptance.  So when Jough insists we aren't making proper puns, he is correct in a way.  In the same way that people who say the recent presidential election was a fraud and people who insist that we should never have come off the gold standard are correct.  The fighting against impossible odds way of being correct.

Personally, I've given up on trying to hold back the floodgates of proper English.  Stopped correcting every occurance of 'The thing of it is is that...'  Started speaking in broken clauses instead of sentences.

[slink]

Actually, I think El Guapo is referring to the unbastardized Webster's 1913 definition puts a pun at a play on a word's homonym specifically.

That is the definition I prefer, but I understand that with my annoyance (see... erm.. other thread where I blew up about it) I would implode, or explode, if I resented any use of it that did not include homonyms.
So I'm being forgiving.
It won't last.
And I don't enjoy it.
Shucks see, now I'm back to unfogiving!

[AlohaDawg]

But by that definition, El Guapo's playing of "Mount 'n do" homonymously (I like that...Ho-MON-y-mous-ly!) against "Mountain Dew" would be a pun by the definition you refer to, n'est pas?

I'm so confused.

[slink]

I'm so confused.

*rubs hands*
It works...

I prefer to just call it 'that green shit'.

[AugustWest]

Slink, how long have you been Teador?