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[JorgeFabregas]

(also if you don't like OPS+ that's what wOBA is for)

Yes, and wRC+ is wOBA adjusted for park and league, since you were complaining that his stats were inflated by shady energy deals and orange juice. Edit: He played premium defensive positions at a mostly competent level and ran the bases well, as mentioned, so just looking at whether his wOBA or OPS were league average doesn't tell the story. A second baseman who hits 15 percent above league average for along career is a HOFer. Among second basemen with a minimum of 5500 plate appearances (roughly 10 years), he is 21st between Lou Whitaker, a guy who should be in the hall of fame, and Bobby Doerr,
a hall of famer whose wRC+ is slightly worse despite not having nearly as long of a career.

Bobby Grich should be in the hall of fame as well.

[JorgeFabregas]

Heck, his home/road splits say the first one.

I don't think that's the way home/road splits work. Most players play better at home. Road splits =! true talent level. Take Matt Holliday. Everyone thought he'd be mediocre once he was away from Coors because of his home/road splits, but he's hit almost as well at Busch, one of the least friendly offensive environments.

[pmcd9]

That flagpole pisses me off so bad.

[theinevitable]

Any time I have a longer conversation with a customer I liked, they either end up being endlessly awesome, or completely awful. Never "huh, I guess that was about what I expected."

The people who go out of their way to compliment me/my drinks/my behavior more than once are always assholes. Always. They like me because I bend over backwards to make them happy. They are friendly to me because I give them what they want. The second something doesn't go their way they turn on me like a fuck*ng wild dog.

This one lady, though, her name is literally Joy. Every time I talk to her it brightens my day. She has adorable kids and always sticks around the extra thirty seconds to make chit-chat. And she is hilarious. I never know how to tell people like this how much I appreciate them without going overboard. I don't need every customer (or even most) to have this kind of interaction with me, but every once in a while it happens and makes my whole day better.

I am an over-emoter.

[jaydub]

Just smile at her and say, "It was nice to see you today, Joy".

[JorgeFabregas]

Right, but I'm looking at the disparity between his home and road splits versus the standard deviation. What I'm saying is he was better at home than average and worse on the road. My explanation for that is comfort and that shit-damn-hole of a bandbox he got for a home field.

They can sit on that damn flag pole in center while they're at it.

And I'm saying he's just one of many players who hits better at home regardless of the park. He never played for another team to prove this, but looky here:
10876 career ABs
Minute Maid (2340 ABs): .285/.353/.466
Astrodome (3141 ABs): .291/.383/.430

[pmcd9]

I don't know why exactly I'm not more in Biggio's corner. He's got great numbers, maybe not HOF numbers, but whatever and he spent his entire career on one team which is something I really admire. I'm into continuity like that. I guess part of it is because so many people around here just assume it's a done deal that he's a dead lock cinch and I have to shake my head. He also played a most of his career during the years when I would have nothing to do with Major League Baseball because they canceled the World Series. That event rendered it impossible for me to give a fuuuuck about anyone that plays professional sports.

While we're on the subject of not giving a fuck, as far as I'm concerned the home run records still belong to Hank Aaron and Roger Maris. Fuck Barry Bonds, Fuck Mark McGuire, Fuck Sammy Sosa. How can those stats matter anymore when the players were juiced, and the ball was juiced too? I've heard it said that juicing the ball was designed to up the numbers and is credited with "saving the game" after the strike, but it's just driven me further away. Factor into that all of these ridiculous retro stadiums every team (with a few exceptions) plays in and I can't see how it'll be possible for me to ever give a fuck about MLB again.

From now on I'm a Skeeters fan.

PS- There will never be another Nolan Ryan.

[wombat]

Someone who gives a fuck about the thread title should split off all this baseball stuff.

[Choop]

yo wombles it's your forum what with bozack gone for so long and nobody likes steppin on toes

[pmcd9]

I'm done ranting on the subject so I think it'll be okay. But c'mon, that was some quality venting.

[Carlos del Vaca]

Biggio missed by two votes. I blame Paul.

[jaydub]

You were King Kong, right?

[greenkoolayd]

Shit my PAM does!



So glad my TV dream girl is back in a new season.

ill fight you for her.

[Choop]

get in line, newb

[Choop]

i skipped chozen, figured i'd give it a couple weeks and watch a few in a row before i decide whether to add it to my lineup.