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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2011, 11:28:07 pm »
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2011, 11:29:25 pm »
I love throwaway shit like that.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #62 on: November 02, 2011, 11:48:07 pm »
You know who else occupied Europe?

Hitler
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2011, 12:14:45 am »
also, rome.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2011, 12:29:55 am »
Quote from: Nabubrush on November 02, 2011, 11:29:25 pm
I love throwaway shit like that.
From which perspective are you looking at it? There are a lot of ways to take that cartoon.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2011, 02:25:17 am »
Quote from: Arachno-capitalist on November 03, 2011, 12:29:55 am
From which perspective are you looking at it? There are a lot of ways to take that cartoon.

I don't know, it seemed to be boiling the whole thing down a bit, to me.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2011, 04:10:49 am »
Quote from: Arachno-capitalist on October 27, 2011, 10:15:13 pm
you can't carry a bazooka into a school

What. Reasonable restrictions on firearms? Cut a corner off of your NRA card, young man.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2011, 11:36:36 am »
Quote from: Asherdan on November 03, 2011, 02:02:58 am
Can someone define what it takes to be part of the 1%?

'Cause I'm pretty sure if it's a simple income calculation I've had years where I qualify and I ain't even running my fuck*ng mouth.
High-five. You can be angry at the way things work or you can exploit it.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2011, 02:08:43 pm »
From what I've read, the bottom end of the top 1% makes over $ 380,000 in income in a year. That's not out of reach for a lot of executives in a lot of industries.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2011, 03:34:38 pm »
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High-five. You can be angry at the way things work or you can exploit it.

Even that, though, presumes a lot of luck and a lot of preparation for your life that was set in motion by your parents and whatnot.

I don't buy it.

Even if "exploit it" wasn't ethically wrong, I don't buy it. We all presume that who we are comes from the sweat of our backs and it just doesn't.

Even saying "well then, just cheat, asshole" presumes a past position from which cheating is possible.

Things are too fucked for most people to even have a platform from which to cheat unless there was a whole set of dominoes stretching back long before their birth.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2011, 03:50:18 pm »
Quote from: Asherdan on November 03, 2011, 02:02:58 am
Can someone define what it takes to be part of the 1%?

'Cause I'm pretty sure if it's a simple income calculation I've had years where I qualify and I ain't even running my fuck*ng mouth.

I think it mainly takes viewing people as potential dollar signs, but then again I'm not sure what % I'm in.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2011, 04:12:53 pm »
Quote from: Asherdan on November 03, 2011, 04:07:43 pm
I'm gonna think of this 1% stuff as more 'corporate overlords' than people I work and socialize with because I find it easier to demonize a monolithic entity instead of Yasu or Laurie or Paul.

You must be referring to another Paul.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2011, 06:00:35 pm »
Quote from: Asherdan on November 03, 2011, 04:25:42 pm
You're hella easy to demonize, dude.

I think of Paul more as Ace, but to each his own.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2011, 06:08:39 pm »
Quote from: Asherdan on November 03, 2011, 04:07:43 pm
I don't know if I buy the 'potential dollar signs' thing, Nabu,

I would have thought the bottom of the 1% was higher than 380k, but by that metric I'm in the 99% (maybe not the 97%? I don't know). And when I say potential dollar signs, I meant seeing the other 99% as dollar signs and only dollar signs. I agree with the monkeysphere philosophy, and I feel like 99% is just a handy shorthand, right? Basically, the powers-that-be want the populace quiet and easily swayed, and not occupying the Port of Oakland or whatever.

And when I say that cartoon is sort of throwaway shit, I just mean that pitching it as a 'greatest generation' vs. 'slackers who are taking the easy way out and milling around in front of the local B of A branch' is pretty simplistic. At that, you might as well say B of A is this generation's Mussolini* and that the slackers are doing the Lord's work.

*Not Godwin'd.

Keep in mind that I'm almost certainly wrong about everything I blather about here.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street
« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2011, 07:36:35 pm »
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