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[jay-ell]

Sick of carpet burns?

Ooooh, sick burn, dude.

Actually our bedroom is too small to get crazy on the floor. We use the family room for that.

[jaydub]

You just tell visitors the anchor points and cleats are for hanging plants, right?

[theinevitable]

Went up to a lake for a day with some new friends. Drank beer, cooked ribs, drank coffee, etc. nobody ever tried to start an argument about politics or talk about anything important. Slept on the couch, cooked breakfast, drove back and went to work. Excellent weekend. They just sent me an email saying they tried to figure out what my "share" of renting the place is, considering I only came for one night and slept on the couch, and decided it wasn't worth it to do the math. "Thanks for coming man, you can bring the beer or something next time."

Sometimes people are just nice.

[littlefallsmets]

I'm sorry I'm kinda scarce around here right now. 'm not hiding out or anything this time! I've been working like a motherfucker on this Sasquatch novel that you guys are obliquely referred to a coupla times in, I guess if you follow me on the facespace you know that though.

Nanowrimo is a weird time sink but I don't have a job and I don't have a lady so my life the last three weeks has been writing "Frank Yetty", trying to lose more weight, helping my dad recover from pneumonia and playing fuckin' Binding of Isaac on Steam.

I'm just starting to get into chapter 10 and I'm over 28,000 words in, I dunno. I think it's gonna be 16 chapters and somewhere between 50,000 to 60,000 words, I dunno, it'll be a short novel even if it's good. I really like parts of it, I'll say that. A lot of weird ideas and developed characters but not tightly plotted, sorta like "Cat's Cradle" and "Magnolia" having a baby, I dunno. I like saddling myself with unattainable milemarkers for some reason. Anyway.

So yeah. When I have a rough draft done, I might bug a couple of you for notes. I look especially at you Queen of the Pugriders.

[wombat]

So yeah. When I have a rough draft done, I might bug a couple of you for notes. I look especially at you Queen of the Pugriders.

I would be happy to do this.

[AugustWest]

ALSO: fuck yeahs, I put in 20 hours on the new house and am one weekend away from floors and kitchen newness.

Yeah, I'd say I put in about 20 hours since Friday on the bathroom project.  Finished wiring, built in shelves, hung most of the tile backer board.  I've got a Thanksgiving deadline!

[theinevitable]

I have this fantasy of building a house. You know, not a real house, something tiny with one room, lofted bed, a single burner in the corner. Cinderblocks and shingles and junk. Then I read something like "I put 20 hours in this weekend" and I think, maybe I can just keep renting forever.

[theinevitable]

yeah, I can see that. I definitely enjoy figuring out household things like that. But in the same way I enjoy reading about economics-- it is so alien to the way my brain works that I am fascinated yet completely stumped. The good thing is, with a leaky faucet you at least know when you got it right.

[Arachno-capitalist]

yeah, I can see that. I definitely enjoy figuring out household things like that. But in the same way I enjoy reading about economics-- it is so alien to the way my brain works that I am fascinated yet completely stumped. The good thing is, with a leaky faucet you at least know when you got it right.

Reading economics textbooks became a hobby of mine before I hit the double digit ages. It has always felt like I was reading stuff I already knew, but with newly applied vocabulary. You're an antrho guy who assumes the greater good in people. I'm an econ guy who assumes that people will always act in their own self interest. Unfortunately, my world-view is called realism and your world-view is called idealism.

[AugustWest]

You're an antrho guy who assumes the greater good in people. I'm an econ guy who assumes that people will always act in their own self interest. Unfortunately, my world-view is called realism and your world-view is called idealism.

That's such a false dichotomy.  Everybody is both a realist and an idealist at times.  Everyone acts in their own self-interest in certain situations, and everyone sacrifices for the greater good in others.  The trick is knowing when and why to do which.

[Arachno-capitalist]

That's such a false dichotomy.  Everybody is both a realist and an idealist at times.  Everyone acts in their own self-interest in certain situations, and everyone sacrifices for the greater good in others.  The trick is knowing when and why to do which.

I don't know what your father did, but my father spent his life engineering bigger, better, more lethal bombs for the navy. 'Everyone sacrifices for the greater good in others' is simply not true. When broken down to their most basic instincts, people will act in their own self-interest. Education just complicates these impulses.

[AugustWest]

I think your devotion to thinking yourself a realist is in itself a form of idealism.

[Arachno-capitalist]

I think your devotion to thinking yourself a realist is in itself a form of idealism.

Two guys are stranded on an island. One guy says "Boost me up so I can get us some coconuts." The other guy says "I've got all the food I need right here."

[theinevitable]

Reading economics textbooks became a hobby of mine before I hit the double digit ages. It has always felt like I was reading stuff I already knew, but with newly applied vocabulary. You're an antrho guy who assumes the greater good in people. I'm an econ guy who assumes that people will always act in their own self interest. Unfortunately, my world-view is called realism and your world-view is called idealism.

No, I don't assume the greater good in people. I assume that people act the way they do largely because of the culture they inhabit. Including economists.

[dejavroom]

When broken down to their most basic instincts, people will act in their own self-interest.