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[littlefallsmets]

Personally, I'd be quite pleased with EITHER free giraffe OR being taught how to giraffe.

Both sound fun.

[jay-ell]

See, I'm not saying "The Message is good because it brings the Bible to stupid people." I just think it is more pleasant to read. I, a person who LOLs at the jokes in The Taming of the Shrew, prefer the USA Today version of the Bible because the increased clarity of the language makes it easier to focus on the concepts.

Heaven knows that stupid people already have too much access to the Bible for anyone's good. I'm talking about atheists, agnostics, and other people who are not invested enough in Christianity as a religion to be able to pay attention to elaborately poetic translations, and just want to know what the damn thing says without referring to a concordance.

Anyway, like it or lump it. I, personally, find it refreshing.

[littlefallsmets]

Hm. I guess that's part of what it comes down to, though.

Because you regard it as a mostly-true set of lessons and instructions for life, you enjoy the idea of having those lessons spoke plainly and in a way that can be acted upon.

Which works well for you.

Because I personally regard it as pleasantly decontextualized mythology with some social engineering and some broadstrokes history of the Middle East mixed in, I enjoy the idea of it all sort of being glossed with the epic feeling of pseudo-antiquity that can only come with archaic and/or eggrandizing phrasing.

Which works well for me.

(Also: I would really love a free giraffe. I would love to ride a giraffe down Ventura Boulevard, the animal eating the fronds of palm trees as she went.)

[Drygioni]

Most people don't read Shakespeare because it's too much work. Sure, it sounds Important, but if 75% of the population can't follow the storyline, it's not really doing its job.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Shakespeare's works are universally almost universally regarded as masterworks in the telling of a story in a way an audience, not just a reader, could follow. They 'do their job' better than almost any other. It would be unfair of me to accuse the original Crime and Punishment for not doing its job because it was written in Russian and I couldn't follow it. Shakespeare has evolved from populist to elitist because people's tongues have changed, modern adaptations of Shakespeare's works are very popular.

[jay-ell]

Shakespeare has evolved from populist to elitist because people's tongues have changed, modern adaptations of Shakespeare's works are very popular.

THIS.

This would be my point, in a nutshell.

[Drygioni]

THIS.

This would be my point, in a nutshell.

Ah.

Carry on then

[AugustWest]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Shakespeare's works are universally almost universally regarded as masterworks in the telling of a story in a way an audience, not just a reader, could follow.

I wonder to what extent a non-English speaker could follow a performance of Shakespeare play?  That is, how much information about the plot can you glean from entirely non-verbal cues?

[wombat]

Personally, I'd be quite pleased with EITHER free giraffe OR being taught how to giraffe.

I would give this a hundred cans, but it would make Ash whine.

[Drygioni]

I wonder to what extent a non-English speaker could follow a performance of Shakespeare play?  That is, how much information about the plot can you glean from entirely non-verbal cues?

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED MATE

French exchange few years back I had a French fellow stay with me. We took him to see Shakespeare. Antony and Cleopatra I think. He couldn't make head nor tail of the words but once I'd explained who the main characters were and what they represented he followed it pretty well, gave me a good summary of the play at the end.

He could have known about it already and just been showing off, though.

[AugustWest]

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED MATE

French exchange few years back I had a French fellow stay with me. We took him to see Shakespeare. Antony and Cleopatra I think. He couldn't make head nor tail of the words but once I'd explained who the main characters were and what they represented he followed it pretty well, gave me a good summary of the play at the end.

He could have known about it already and just been showing off, though.

No, I was thinking you could do just that.  Kind of like watching Gilligan's Island on mute.

[littlefallsmets]

Come to think, a mash-up of Gilligan's Island and The Tempest would basically punish.

"Caliban's Island" maybe.

[pmcd9]

I've no objection to people reading the Bible as fiction. It's certainly better than not reading it at all.

From a belief standpoint it would have been better if I'd never read the bible.  My reading of the bible vanquished any faith I previously had in it.

[Thomas Pain]

I wonder to what extent a non-English speaker could follow a performance of Shakespeare play?  That is, how much information about the plot can you glean from entirely non-verbal cues?

I've often had the experience of watching a movie and by the end of the movie still not knowing the names of the characters and moreover not even being able to recognize some of the main characters from one scene to another if there were too many characters who looked alike (e.g. two or more of a similar age, race, and/or hair style.)

It probably didn't help that I grew up in Nigeria for half my childhood, so perhaps my brain calibrated it's self for recognizing Nigerians, then I come to the midwestern U.S. where everyone basically looks like everyone else (white.) 

But the main deal there is probably ADHD.  and/or Asperger Syndrome.

So how well I can follow Shakespeare in any language?  Yeah not real well.  I'm getting better at that sorta stuff lately however.  medication, you know...

[theinevitable]

I have problems with movies like The Dead Poet's Society, where every character is like, white dude with a neat haircut, who wears nice clothes.

Also, shakespeare has never really been my bag.

[Doc]

I really like Shakespeare but it's mainly because I love the puns. How much of a bad person does that make me?