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[Choop]

did paleolithic man have precision cutlery and nonstick pans, this diet makes no sense

[Nabubrush]

It goes with Cross-Fit, to me. Yes, back in the day our ancestors used to devour sides of mammoth and run through the jungle for 14 hours a day. They also died before they were 30 (and none of them looked like Daryl Hannah, I'll bet).

[jay-ell]

Yeah, my reaction to Paleo dieting is this: Do you know why, after generations of eating only meat and plants, we as a species decided it was worth the trouble to settle down and raise wheat and rice and drink the milk of cows instead of just killing them for their beef? Because that shit is awesome. As soon as we evolved to the point where we could make pasta happen, we were on top of that action.

You thaw out a caveman and give him the choice between a handful of grass and berries (which is what he probably mostly ate because meat was very hard to get) and a big steaming bowl of macaroni and cheese (the most energy-dense, protein-rich poverty food in the history of the world) and I guarantee, once he decides the pasta isn't going to kill him, he will gruffle that shit. We're hard-wired for it, so if you wanna go "natural," follow your cravings and only eat when you're hungry. That's *way* healthier than eliminating entire food groups, for sure.

[Nabubrush]

I think so. Agriculture is not without its drawbacks, but grains aren't one of them.

[Arachno-capitalist]

I lived with a cross fit trainer who was all about the paleo diet. I couldn't quite endorse the philosophy of it, but dinner consisted of throwing a piece of meat on the grill for a couple minutes and grazing on salads and berries. Going for an evening jog was a lot easier with leaves in my belly as opposed to pasta or some microwave concoction.

[jaydub]

America's fatness has a lot more to do with the amount of time we spend sitting on our asses (driving, working, and watching TV) than it does with the particular balance of macronutrients we choose in our diets.
Paleo has two major drawbacks in my opinion: no beer, and it fails to take advantage of the human superpower mutation that evolved during the neolithic - lactase persistence.
In terms of macro economics, you can't feed the world with a paleo diet anyway.  It is possible for rich pukes like us, but most people can't afford to get their calories from meat, nuts, and olive oil.

[Nabubrush]

In terms of macro economics, you can't feed the world with a paleo diet anyway.  It is possible for rich pukes like us, but most people can't afford to get their calories from meat, nuts, and olive oil.

In my experience, many of the folks who are likely to indulge in a paleo diet are short-sighted enough to think it doesn't matter if the people who can't afford paleo all starve to death.

[Choop]

...which makes it pretty authentically paleolithic

[greenkoolayd]

...which makes it pretty authentically paleolithic

+1

[theinevitable]

wait, guys, for real: are paleo diet people advocating that everyone should eat this way, or are they just doing it to gain muscle/lose weight?

[jaydub]

wait, guys, for real: are paleo diet people advocating that everyone should eat this way, or are they just doing it to gain muscle/lose weight?

No - many of them just act as though its because people are stupid, lazy and undisciplined that they don't eat Paleo.  See, if everyone ate that way, there wouldn't be an obesity epidemic and the health care debate would be moot because no one would get the "diseases of affluence" (heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, stroke).

[Arachno-capitalist]

wait, guys, for real: are paleo diet people advocating that everyone should eat this way, or are they just doing it to gain muscle/lose weight?

Most guys on Paleo are in it to eat what they believe humans were meant to eat as opposed to the over processed science experiments that modern people stuff in their faces. I haven't heard any get all preachy and judgmental in the way that some vegans or vegetarians can be.

[Victoria Waterfield]

Most guys on Paleo are in it to eat what they believe humans were meant to eat as opposed to the over processed science experiments that modern people stuff in their faces. I haven't heard any get all preachy and judgmental in the way that some vegans or vegetarians can be.

However, unless they're also getting the diseases humans were meant to get as opposed to the over processed science experiments that modern people inject as vaccines, I will feel free to question their commitment to the concept.

[wombat]

Also weren't we meant to die at like 30? You know nature is really not all it's cracked up to be.

[Choop]

i'd try the paleo diet but you'd have to kill me to take away my flamin' hot chee-tohs